{"id":211,"date":"2010-02-26T17:18:17","date_gmt":"2010-02-27T01:18:17","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/35.225.155.113\/blog\/index.php\/2010\/02\/26\/old_programmers_dont_die_they_just_fade_away\/"},"modified":"2019-10-13T13:02:47","modified_gmt":"2019-10-13T20:02:47","slug":"old-programmers-dont-die-they-just-fade-away","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.weinstein.org\/blog\/index.php\/2010\/02\/old-programmers-dont-die-they-just-fade-away.html","title":{"rendered":"Old Programmers Don&#8217;t Die, They Just Fade Away"},"content":{"rendered":"<p style=\"margin-bottom: 0in\">A few days ago I came across this<br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.infoworld.com\">Infoworld<\/a> article entitled &#8220;<a href=\"http:\/\/www.infoworld.com\/d\/adventures-in-it\/painful-truth-about-age-discrimination-in-tech-209\">The painful truth about age<br \/>\ndiscrimination in tech<\/a>&#8221; via <a href=\"http:\/\/www.slashdot.org\">Slashdot<\/a> and have been wanting to<br \/>\ncomment on it ever since. While I have had no reason to cry foul<br \/>\non any company I&#8217;ve ever interviewed for, I have to say most of the<br \/>\nissues certainly ring true to me.<\/p>\n<p>One of the frustrations I feel a<br \/>\nlot of tech works have is how to communicate experience. Way too<br \/>\noften I fell I&#8217;ve talked to recruiters or HR personnel who are either<br \/>\nlooking for an exact word-for-word match between the resume and the job<br \/>\nopening or, on the opposite end of the spectrum, are looking for just<br \/>\none keyword to hit.<\/p>\n<p>Alas, it seems all too true that &#8220;hiring<br \/>\nmanagers are unable to map how 10 years of experience in one<br \/>\nprogramming language can inform or enhance a programmer&#8217;s months of<br \/>\nexperience with a newer technology.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Which of course doesn&#8217;t help when, in<br \/>\nthe world of technology, the field is evolving at such a rapid pace,<br \/>\nwith a huge focus on &#8220;The Next Big Thing&#8221;.<\/p>\n<p>True, writing <a href=\"http:\/\/hoohoo.ncsa.illinois.edu\/cgi\/\">CGI<br \/>\nscripts<\/a> in <a href=\"http:\/\/www.perl.org\">Perl<\/a> yesterday doesn&#8217;t automatically translate to writing<br \/>\ncustom modules in <a href=\"http:\/\/www.joomla.org\/\">Joomla<\/a>. But there is a road that gets a developer<br \/>\nfrom first writing a CGI script in Perl to learning <a class=\"zem_slink rdfa\" href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Object-oriented_programming\" title=\"Object-oriented programming\" rel=\"ctag:means wikipedia\" xmlns:ctag=\"http:\/\/commontag.org\/ns#\" typeof=\"ctag:Tag\" resource=\"http:\/\/rdf.freebase.com\/ns\/en\/object-oriented_programming\" property=\"ctag:label\">Object-Orientated<\/a><br \/>\nprogramming to understanding design patterns such as<br \/>\n<a class=\"zem_slink rdfa\" href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Model%E2%80%93view%E2%80%93controller\" title=\"Model-view-controller\" rel=\"ctag:means wikipedia\" xmlns:ctag=\"http:\/\/commontag.org\/ns#\" typeof=\"ctag:Tag\" resource=\"http:\/\/rdf.freebase.com\/ns\/en\/model-view-controller\" property=\"ctag:label\">Model-View-Controller<\/a> that does provide one with the basis for working with Joomla.<\/p>\n<p>Luckily this is an issue that can be<br \/>\ntaken care of with a little education.<\/p>\n<p>More troubling for an experienced<br \/>\ndeveloper is that &#8220;only 19 percent of computer science graduates<br \/>\nare still working in programming once they&#8217;re in their early 40s.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Granted the source of that statistic is<br \/>\na government study that&#8217;s at least a decade old. But still, the high<br \/>\nturn-over I&#8217;ve experienced working in the tech industry &#8211; my<br \/>\naverage is about 2 years at any given company &#8211; I can see many<br \/>\nindividuals would take the break as motivation to look for something &#8220;better&#8221;. Heck,<br \/>\nI&#8217;ve even felt it myself, having gone back to school for a Masters in<br \/>\nBusiness Administration at one point.<\/p>\n<p>Invariably when talking about business,<br \/>\na sports analogy tends to make an entrance. Sure enough, Inforworld&#8217;s<br \/>\narticle compares the IT industry to that of professional sports, &#8220;at<br \/>\nsome point in those career arcs, the assets that made workers such<br \/>\nhot properties &#8212; youth, the ability to devote lots of time to their<br \/>\nvocation, comparative inexperience &#8212; diminish. And the marginal<br \/>\nutility of what&#8217;s left &#8212; experience &#8212; is not as strongly valued.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Yet that of course is not true,<br \/>\nwell at least it isn&#8217;t true in professional sports. All you have to<br \/>\ndo is think of all those managers, coaches and scouts, most of whom<br \/>\nat one time or another played the sport itself. Perhaps they never<br \/>\nmade it to the &#8220;bigs&#8221; or they did, but found out that their<br \/>\ntalent wasn&#8217;t above average. Yet found a way to contribute, to use their experience as a way to give back<br \/>\nto the sport that gave them a job, as the saying goes.<\/p>\n<p>Which begs the question, where are<br \/>\nthose jobs, the managing, coaching or scouting positions in IT?<\/p>\n<div class=\"zemanta-pixie\" style=\"margin-top:10px;height:15px\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"zemanta-pixie-img\" alt=\"\" src=\"http:\/\/img.zemanta.com\/pixy.gif?x-id=ba8d72c6-6869-433b-a0d4-20e122ddd0a1\" style=\"border:none;float:right\"><span class=\"zem-script more-related pretty-attribution\"><script type=\"text\/javascript\" src=\"http:\/\/static.zemanta.com\/readside\/loader.js\" defer=\"defer\"><\/script><\/span><\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>A few days ago I came across this Infoworld article entitled &#8220;The painful truth about age discrimination in tech&#8221; via Slashdot and have been wanting to comment on it ever since. While I have had no reason to cry foul on any company I&#8217;ve ever interviewed for, I have to say most of the issues [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":4,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[117,118],"tags":[278,43,106,146],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.weinstein.org\/blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/211"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.weinstein.org\/blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.weinstein.org\/blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.weinstein.org\/blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/4"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.weinstein.org\/blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=211"}],"version-history":[{"count":2,"href":"https:\/\/www.weinstein.org\/blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/211\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":728,"href":"https:\/\/www.weinstein.org\/blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/211\/revisions\/728"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.weinstein.org\/blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=211"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.weinstein.org\/blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=211"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.weinstein.org\/blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=211"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}